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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby HeavyCar on Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:51 pm

nope, still driving a tractor
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby h31n4 on Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:44 am

Habe jetzt Mutithreading abgeschaltet und gemerkt, das Windows 10, 4 von 8 Kernen bei AMD Ryzen 2700X gesperrt hatte. Habs entsperrt, die FPS Anzeige ist jetzt bei fast stabilen 250 FPS und das Auto ist auch eine Ecke gefühlsechter geworden. Bin direkt in Champ 2 Div 3 aufgestiegen. Tendenz weiter nach oben.

Viel Erfolg!
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby DerBaron on Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:08 pm

Ok guys, here is something VERY weird... found out by accident how my HCB is gone for me - REPRODUCIBLE (for me)

3 days ago I bought the game 'Wreckfest' on steam. The last 3 days I always played Wreckfest before Rocket League and had no HCB in Rocket League.
Today I didn't play Wreckfest, only Rocket League and there was HCB again (only light, but there was very noticable input lag)
Then I thought about, what I did on the other days before Rocket League.
I quit Rocket League, started Wreckfest, played for a few second an exhibition match, then quit Wreckfest and started Rocket League and HCB was gone :O

I shut down my computer, restarted and 10 out of 10 times I could reproduce this behaviour and "fix".
my OS isn't messed up, it's a new install. My friend tested out the same and could reproduce ASWELL.

So I won't call it a GENERIC fix for everyone, but it is the first thing that works.
I guess that Wreckfest uses DirectInput in another way (?)
Maybe it works with other games that are playable with a controller, at least with a proper support.

Would like to hear if someone can confirm the same behaviour...

best regards
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby pantsparty7 on Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:21 pm

Nice try, Wreckfest developer.

This reminds of the time everyone bought the Halo 3 beta featuring Crackdown.

But seriously, if this works for real, that's awesome...and weird.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby HeavyCar on Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:26 am

trolled by
btw cant remember that this game ever felt so bad like now.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby DerBaron on Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:00 am

HeavyCar wrote:trolled by
btw cant remember that this game ever felt so bad like now.


I'm not trolling...
I can still reproduce it here...

edit: you can see that I posted an the end of page 157 that I had no HCB this day (2019-01-12)
I just didn't know why
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby HeavyCar on Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:31 am

sry, that "fix" sounds so weird :o
Is Wreckfest so " slow" or i have hcb there too ? :D
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby DerBaron on Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:03 am

Wreckfest is a bit indirect in comparison with Rocket League, but it also depends on the car you choose ;)

yep, the whole thing is WEIRD af, I can't understand what happens there, only found out by accident, would've never tried something like that
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby HeavyCar on Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:49 am

well, ive tried 2 different pcs, 5 gamepads, 2 monitors, 3 usb cable, got much better inet, nothing changed.
Playing this game since release and i even dont know if i ever played without hcb. But it was never so bad like the last months.
No fast aerials, no quick turns, no powershots, weird flicks etc.
The only thing I did not do was play in a different place
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby DerBaron on Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:09 pm

HeavyCar wrote:well, ive tried 2 different pcs, 5 gamepads, 2 monitors, 3 usb cable, got much better inet, nothing changed.
Playing this game since release and i even dont know if i ever played without hcb. But it was never so bad like the last months.
No fast aerials, no quick turns, no powershots, weird flicks etc.
The only thing I did not do was play in a different place


yep, I know that very well... you are german, aren't you?
you can add me on steam, if you want to: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Der_Baron/
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby h31n4 on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:20 am

does any one tested the new ps4 controller with bluetooth dongle and ds4windows?
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Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby Mathewvof on Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:51 pm

Blender starting having huge lagging issues just moving the cursor around, this was right after a stupid nvidia update. so I rolled back a handful of nvidia drivers and its still there. was there a Blender setup somewhere? I never had this issue before so I havent a clue where to start to fix it. All blender lag issues Ive researched have done nothing and it seems all anyone does is shotgun the problem as no one has a definitive reason as to why it happens.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby pantsparty7 on Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:46 am

Hey DerBaron, does your Wreckfest fix still work?
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby s1dekick223 on Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:56 am

So now i join.

i've the problem as well for about 1 1/2 years now. I play since the game came out and have 6000 hours.

Last year i bought a new pc cause of this problem it's:

    i7 8700k
    GTX 1080 TI
    32GB Ram
    144Hz Benq with 1ms input

i tried:

    Controllers:
    Razer Raiju
    Razer Raiju Ultimate
    PS4 with ds4
    PS4 without ds4
    Xbox 360 con
    Xbox One con

Settings:

    240fps
    120fps
    unlimited fps
    250fps
    lowest settings
    no decals on car and ion boost
    (i already play without v-sync and my monitor is 144hz so this is no fix)

other settings:

    disable all windows animations
    only start windows with steam, all other services are not starting
    disable steam webhelpers
    start pc with multithreading
    reinstall win10/win7
    changed ISP from Telekom 200Down/50Up/8Ping to 1&1 100Down/40Up/8Ping (i live in Hamburg/Germany)
    contacted Psy support
    opened ports (it's getting worse)
    reset overclocking
    tried dvi and dp cable
    used killping
    changed the basesystemsettings and the TAsystemsettings
    changed nvidia settings to perfomance
    changed windows to ultimate power perfomance mode (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-LnnjsCAe8&t)
    also tried the wreckfest thing yesterday and it worked for 1 game but then it was horrible again


The only fix (sadly):
    I only can fix this problem when i turn v-sync on and then off again my game runs so perfect for 4-8 seconds but then it's bad again (i hope anyone can do something with this information.)

I'm in a state right now where i'm happy to play with my friends but after oneor two games i quit because i just can't handle it. i't makes me really sad...
i google everday for a new post about of this problem.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby DerBaron on Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:06 pm

pantsparty7 wrote:Hey DerBaron, does your Wreckfest fix still work?


hi folks!

@pantsparty7: YES! It still does!

And it works aswell for another member here of the forum who added me on steam.
I found out some other stuff (when you use multiple accounts) and I need an invitation for the HCB discord to talk to the devs.

Can anyone help?
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby HeavyCar on Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:05 am

Welcome in da club Sidekick. made the same experience , especially with that V - Sync stuff.
ive tried the " fix" from baron yesterday and it worked. Game feels much better and i have no delay @ main menu
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby eteran on Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:19 am

I tried KBM and it has HCB aswell.

I purchased a new account. Then I practiced the first 25h only playing workshop maps, free play and training packs. No HCB at all. Everything was fast and responsive. Then I started playing online. The first 10 hours were fine, which might be a coincidental good day, then HCB started creeping in. After about 50h in total I had the same effects than playing with controller: slow and delayed turning, slow acceleration, flips not going off, weak shots.

I now have tried PS4, Win7, Win10, PS4 controller, Xbox360 controller, KBM. Both cable internet (Unitymedia) and LTE (Telekom). All have HCB more often than not.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby jerraa1 on Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:28 pm

Can someone please unban me in the HCB discord and give the link to it please. :) I dont even know why im banned and if I am still banned
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby Caffe on Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:57 pm

Guys, DerBaron's fix is legit. I just downloaded the game and played, then played rocket league and I feel 3 times faster.
I noticed in wreckfest, the game recognised the xbox one controller I'm using as an xbox 360, maybe this has something to do with it.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby HeavyCar on Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:32 am

yeah, its still not perfect, but much better. someone should invite him asap
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