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Postby Tentacles on Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:05 am

Looks great! Don't forget to tell people how they can do the test themselves in the post. You mentioned ps4 vpn earlier I believe.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby Compact on Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:13 am

I would suggest to change the title to something calmer, like "Is this the proof for the car handling inconsistency in Rocket League?" or something along these lines.

The current title in full capslock might put people off.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby colekart3 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:12 am

When you share with everyone, you should post the macro as well for anyone who is sceptical. Great work galctix!
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby GalactixJR on Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:50 am

What should I title the Reddit post?
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby colekart3 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:57 am

Something like "inconsistencies in inputs that may prove 'heavy car' using macros"
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby GalactixJR on Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:22 am

EVERYTHING IS UP! PLEASE HOP ON AND HELP SHARE IT!
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REDDIT POST: https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/c ... gh_macros/

YOUTUBE VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pGnupA_J94

TWITTER POST: https://twitter.com/GalactixJR/status/9 ... 1676256257
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby GalactixJR on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:22 pm

wow. the video and reddit post aren't doing well...
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby Arkaner247 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:33 pm

GalactixJR wrote:wow. the video and reddit post aren't doing well...

What do you mean ? Give it some time bro :)
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby GalactixJR on Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:34 pm

Oh crap, it's because RLCS is going on.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby Hudson on Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:03 pm

Great video you have there Galactix good job!

What about the car just being slow and heavy? If they were to fix whatever is causing the inconsistent turns would that solve the slowness as well or is that caused by something else?

Amazing how fast all the RLCS players are such a big difference.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby GalactixJR on Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:20 pm

Thanks! I really think it'd fix it, or it'd at least fix a huge part of it.

This occurs during Training while in offline mode with very controlled conditions so the issue is something fundamental with the way the game works.

As soon as you take that broken mechanic online the stress on the CPU gets even worse, keep in mind the CPU isn't utilized properly, so it's even worse! When online you have to load in other players, their cars, paintjobs, wheels, decals, ect. Then you have to factor in if you have a clean connection to the Server. If not, that's only working the CPU even harder. I think we need to start at the CPU issue, then work our way from there. :)
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby yoloswagmoney999 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:05 pm

To the two guys who did the macro, I'm not sure how bad your guys' heavy car bug is relative to other people who have it, but if you are looking to do more testing for the people who are spouting fps bullshit in the reddit thread, you should consider posting the macro file for other people to test.

The macro you used in the video was good, but if you recorded one that did 360 degree turn, or one that atleast turns for the whole duration of holding down the jump button, you could get even better results. However, if the problem is with changing direction, then this would not work, and your macro would be better.
I'm pretty sure when my heavy car gets bad, it has to be heavier than 99% of other people, it is actually insane. If you compare mine to a pro player, it would most likely be extreme enough to verify that is not just an fps problem. I would encourage you to post a macro like this along with all controller/camera settings, and let a shit ton of people test it so you get a big sample size.

Best case scenario is you get a pro player that has never complained about heavy car, and let them test this macro. It would be interesting for 2 reasons.
1. If they run the test many times, do they always end in the same spot (are inputs 100% consistent for people with no HCB)?
2. Compare their result with someone who has very bad HCB(i.e., many people in this thread)

In my opinion, this could give even more drastic results because the inconsistencies within a single game is very small compared to the inconsistencies of no-HCB vs bad-HCB.

And for the people that just keep shooting everything down, saying its not enough proof, we would need an fps counter to show it is consistent fps, and possibly even a video going frame by frame.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby GalactixJR on Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:36 pm

I'll try and post the Macro somewhere, what site do I post it to where people can download it?

This FPS argument is just bullshit. I can record some 360 turns where I just hold the buttons the whole time, it's going to be just as inconsistent. Halo 5 was proven this way with lower FPS, how is this not proof?

It's the dumbest thing. You have to get every little thing just right for these morons. I'm not doing it I'm sorry. This is enough proof.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby GalactixJR on Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:46 pm

I want a reply from Psyonix. I'm not convinced with 2 random guys telling me what it is. I want to hear an exact reason for what is going on, from Psyonix.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby Tentacles on Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:51 pm

Ya right some guy who made alpha console thinks he's a Psyonix dev that's laughable. I couldn't figure out how to tag psyonix devs in reddit. I'm in the reddit beta :(
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby Toakens on Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:59 pm

Do GalactixJR or heavycarvictim have a aoc monitor ?
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby HeavyCarVictim4 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:04 pm

Toakens wrote:Do GalactixJR or heavycarvictim have a aoc monitor ?


Im using an asus monitor
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby GalactixJR on Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:17 pm

Yeah the AlphaConsole dude is so dumb.

He can't comprehend what I'm trying to explain regarding Halo.
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby Toakens on Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:51 pm

HeavyCarVictim4 wrote:
Toakens wrote:Do GalactixJR or heavycarvictim have a aoc monitor ?


Im using an asus monitor


which one ?
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Re: Weird lag/controller input /car becomes slowed down

Postby Tentacles on Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:35 pm

according to their theory I should take my asus 144hz monitor down to 60fps to avoid HCB. This makes no sense.
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