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Noob questins

Postby Langmuir on Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:30 am

Hi All,

A couple of noob questions. The one thing that I am really struggling with right now is how to judge where a ball is high in the air when I am right below it. I tend to play a slightly defensive style so I tend to be in the goal when the ball is on my side of the field. When the opponents get a ball bouncing high in front of the goal, I just don't know what to do or where the ball is. I have ball cam on. Maybe turning it off would help but I am still trying to master switching between ball cam on and off, I find it disorienting to keep switching. In these instances, I just tend to flail around like an idiot and a good opponent will score.

My other question is just more about people's experience. I am so inconsistent from day to day or even game to game. Some games it seems like I miss every single easy shot and save. Other games I hit every single one. OFC sometimes it has to do with the opponents but there are times when it has nothing to do with the opponents, I am just sucking. I am sure consistency just comes with time but does anybody else experience very inconsistent playing?
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Re: Noob questins

Postby littlebigleg on Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:57 am

utube the settings that pros etc use to change up your camera settings,default is way too close to the ball,Then you will see a lot more,And just play lots and you will improve
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Re: Noob questins

Postby N7Mith on Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:13 pm

I'm plat-diamond range, and I still have matches where I absolutely suck. Last weekend (double xp) I had 3 matches consequentially where I didn't get even 50 points. Didn't feel too tired, wasn't stressed, was warmed up, just felt like a normal afternoon. Couple games earlier I was fine. Sometimes you just don't have a good day. Even grand-champions report the same (although of course not to this extent).
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Re: Noob questins

Postby NoOne-NBA on Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:49 pm

N7Mith wrote:I had 3 matches consequentially where I didn't get even 50 points. Didn't feel too tired, wasn't stressed, was warmed up, just felt like a normal afternoon...

I'm in that same range, and I have matches like that all the time.
For me, it's usually more a matter of who is on my team, rather than performance issues on my part.

When I'm on a team which is rotating well, and the other players let me into that rotation, I tend to score a lot of points.
Having players who know how to get back to defense allows me to be more aggressive on offense.
When the other players are constantly cutting rotation, and jumping over my head, I tend to hang back, and keep bad things from happening.
That leaves me short on points because nothing I do from there accumulates points.
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Re: Noob questins

Postby Scyonite on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:03 pm

My performance tends to have some up and downs too, although I think these up and downs are effectively less different than I feel they are. I think my performance is also rotationally linked to my teammates. I tend to play worse with teammates that take their time and delay plays. I'm more of a high rotational throughput, clean disengage, high flow kind of player. Essentially these teammates force me to play at a slower pace and I'll have more difficulty positioning correctly. When I reassure myself I need to stay back and slow down a little bit more things feel better. But nothing feels as good as a player that has the same overall game pace and clean disengages.

Coming back to you, I think it's possible to identify what might cause you to have up and downs and act to minimize these differences.
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Re: Noob questins

Postby Langmuir on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:28 pm

I did change my camera settings based on recommendations I could find. It did make a big difference in my overall game. It is the balls that are directly above me that have me lost and flailing like an idiot.
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Re: Noob questins

Postby Scyonite on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:35 pm

Langmuir wrote:I did change my camera settings based on recommendations I could find. It did make a big difference in my overall game. It is the balls that are directly above me that have me lost and flailing like an idiot.


On that part, I don't know what rank you are. But at a certain point going up straight up or going for a ball that's straight up is already such a disadvantageous position it's not a shot worth going for (unless both the ball and you have exactly the same field projected momentum and you're only going straight up in a moving frame of reference, the ball's).
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Re: Noob questins

Postby Langmuir on Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:54 pm

Scyonite wrote:
On that part, I don't know what rank you are. But at a certain point going up straight up or going for a ball that's straight up is already such a disadvantageous position it's not a shot worth going for (unless both the ball and you have exactly the same field projected momentum and you're only going straight up in a moving frame of reference, the ball's).


I don’t know what rank I should be, not very high I am assuming. I only play standard casual. I tried playing ranked for a bit and it was awful. I was placed way to high and was no fun. I am having fun in casual. In most games that I play there may be one or two players that can be somewhat successful at aerials. There is also the occasional guy who attempts aerials but should not but I guess that is what casual is for. Personally I don’t do aerials much because I am not all that successful and it just puts me out of position. I don’t know if that gives you any idea about my rank.

So it almost sounds like if I can anticipate that the ball is going to be high in front of the goal, that I should move out from the goal and look for a better position to clear it. I hate to leave the goal the unguarded but it sounds like the best option at that point.

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Re: Noob questins

Postby Tentacles on Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:24 pm

1. Learn to double jump aerial, learn boost management, send the ball to the side using air roll.
2. Sounds like internet issues, go hardwired if you are on wifi, reset your modem on rough days.
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Re: Noob questins

Postby Scyonite on Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:00 am

Langmuir wrote:
Scyonite wrote:
On that part, I don't know what rank you are. But at a certain point going up straight up or going for a ball that's straight up is already such a disadvantageous position it's not a shot worth going for (unless both the ball and you have exactly the same field projected momentum and you're only going straight up in a moving frame of reference, the ball's).


I don’t know what rank I should be, not very high I am assuming. I only play standard casual. I tried playing ranked for a bit and it was awful. I was placed way to high and was no fun. I am having fun in casual. In most games that I play there may be one or two players that can be somewhat successful at aerials. There is also the occasional guy who attempts aerials but should not but I guess that is what casual is for. Personally I don’t do aerials much because I am not all that successful and it just puts me out of position. I don’t know if that gives you any idea about my rank.

So it almost sounds like if I can anticipate that the ball is going to be high in front of the goal, that I should move out from the goal and look for a better position to clear it. I hate to leave the goal the unguarded but it sounds like the best option at that point.

Thanks


I don't really know at which rank people start to try aerialing. Just that it's not a very high rank. So I'll have to tailor my advice a bit. The gist of my advice was: an aerial that doesn't allow you to build up field momentum or the ball to be hit with sufficient momentum generally creates more advantage for the opponent team. A good opponent team would simply wait to take possession of the ball. But considering your rank, beating the opponent team to such a ball and still being able to follow it up might be worth it. It just really depends situationally. Don't let my advice stop you from trying to learn aerials, but be wary of teams that will punish you for that specific situation (e.g. anything else than both the ball and you having exactly the same field projected momentum and you're only going straight up in a moving frame of reference).

If it's possible in such situations, try to move up a wall and aerial to the ball from the wall. You will have some field momentum and you could potentially still retain possession (you should aim towards the ball for that play).
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Re: Noob questins

Postby N7Mith on Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:10 am

NoOne-NBA wrote:
N7Mith wrote:I had 3 matches consequentially where I didn't get even 50 points. Didn't feel too tired, wasn't stressed, was warmed up, just felt like a normal afternoon...

I'm in that same range, and I have matches like that all the time.
For me, it's usually more a matter of who is on my team, rather than performance issues on my part.

When I'm on a team which is rotating well, and the other players let me into that rotation, I tend to score a lot of points.
Having players who know how to get back to defense allows me to be more aggressive on offense.
When the other players are constantly cutting rotation, and jumping over my head, I tend to hang back, and keep bad things from happening.
That leaves me short on points because nothing I do from there accumulates points.


That does play a part, but this time it was all me. Just normal balls, not too high, not even 50/50s that I couldn't hit for the life of me. Got carried the first out of that trio, my teammates had 700+ and 500+ points, we won 6-1. Then I switched to casual and kept playing bad.
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Re: Noob questins

Postby Dirkened on Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:51 pm

I'd recommend that you try warming up and practicing with the Custom Training packs and default Training modes.

They're generally a great way to learn new shots and work on your defense.
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