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Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby xkoeckiiej on Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:02 pm

From the people that i've spoken to, is ranked absolutely dead.
Pretty much everyone i talk(ed)/play(ed) dislikes ranked now due to the high amount of last season diamond players.
Its one massive pool of chasing and hogging.
In a team its easy to overcome but its new for many higher ranked players as soloqueue is deadly and toxic.
Therefor is a 6mans on discord which divides you in classes according to the rank you have now.
They keep track of your games in the 6mans and theres alot of people that i talked to that only play that now or at least more regular than ranked.
Not sure if this is accurate but its from my pov with the circle of people i talk with.
Anything you guys can think of to make ranked fun again? cuzz rn its just boring.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby Fazel23 on Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:53 pm

Damn. I thought I was actually improving.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby Tentacles on Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:13 pm

And lets not forget about HCB in nearly every single match. It's not about skill it's about luck now.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby zGreenMachine- on Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:23 pm

I've really been enjoying the 6man games in that server. Been enjoying it much more than ranked actually. The games aren't always close but generally it's fun
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Re : Classée est en mauvais état sur les niveaux supérieurs

Postby WwbriochewW on Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:06 am

Hello My username is WwbriochewW is morning I was rocketer while the day before I was lvl 46 in short I would like to become lvl 46 because I'm killed in games because I have a rank too elevate to my lvl please (my frenche) (PC steam )
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Re: Re : Classée est en mauvais état sur les niveaux supérie

Postby N7Mith on Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:43 pm

WwbriochewW wrote:Hello My username is WwbriochewW is morning I was rocketer while the day before I was lvl 46 in short I would like to become lvl 46 because I'm killed in games because I have a rank too elevate to my lvl please (my frenche) (PC steam )
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Re : Re : Classée est en mauvais état sur les niveaux supéri

Postby WwbriochewW on Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:27 am

N7Mith wrote:
WwbriochewW wrote:Hello My username is WwbriochewW is morning I was rocketer while the day before I was lvl 46 in short I would like to become lvl 46 because I'm killed in games because I have a rank too elevate to my lvl please (my frenche) (PC steam )
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What?

I lvl 75 full rocketer I lvl 46 and don't lvl 75
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Re: Re : Re : Classée est en mauvais état sur les niveaux su

Postby N7Mith on Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:47 pm

WwbriochewW wrote:
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WwbriochewW wrote:Hello My username is WwbriochewW is morning I was rocketer while the day before I was lvl 46 in short I would like to become lvl 46 because I'm killed in games because I have a rank too elevate to my lvl please (my frenche) (PC steam )
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What?

I lvl 75 full rocketer I lvl 46 and don't lvl 75

Oh, you got an xp glitch that maxes out your level. But those have no effect on gameplay and matchmaking. It's just an indication of time played, and a poor one at that. Mmr is seperate. (the score that determines who you get matched with)
If people talk shit about being a bad rocketeer, hide your title. Last tab in the car customization.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby N7Mith on Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:02 am

We need another calibration. Diamond is totally screwed with people like me who don't belong there. Half the population is skilled just short of champion level, the other half belongs in platinum. I'm moving up steadily, but when when real Diamond players are in the game it's painfully clear that I don't belong there.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby adstar on Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:12 am

too many smurfs nowadays, they can operate easily by saying they have alternate accounts......... no ban, nothing, they have 2 different ranks on 2 different accounts, that's cheating..................no one will ever fix this, what a game.............................................................................................
Why is this cheating allowed??????????????????????????????
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby HAKKO on Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:51 pm

adstar wrote:too many smurfs nowadays, they can operate easily by saying they have alternate accounts......... no ban, nothing, they have 2 different ranks on 2 different accounts, that's cheating..................no one will ever fix this, what a game.............................................................................................
Why is this cheating allowed??????????????????????????????


*its profitable
*its not cheating
*not sure how you would prevent it, but it would likely cost money (to further cut down profits)

In fact, they likely encourage it by making the top end ranks so volatile.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby Fish_Goes_Moo on Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:07 pm

Psyonix say smurfing is cheating.

https://www.rocketleague.com/news/code- ... ng-policy/

"Cheating (which includes smurfing, opponent collusion, etc.)"

Of course it means fuck all, because $$$ from new accounts, but it is against the rules. I honestly wish they would just end the farce and say it's fine and we can end the complaints.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby zGreenMachine- on Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:48 pm

If they actually wanted people to buy new copies they'd be swinging the banhammer left and right at smurfs so they'd be forced to buy another copy if they wanted to play. Either way they really can't stop you from buying a new copy under a different account. There is no way for them to tell it isn't actually you playing it. The only way to completely prevent smurfing would be tracking players by MAC address (I think) but even then that would limit one player to one machine, preventing anyone else in the household from playing under their own legit accounts.

One of my buddies is really into CS:GO and I think he said that you have to verify your account with a unique phone number or something and supposedly that cut down on smurfing when they implemented that. Which could be a good alternative imo
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby Galactic Geek on Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:30 pm

zGreenMachine- wrote:One of my buddies is really into CS:GO and I think he said that you have to verify your account with a unique phone number or something and supposedly that cut down on smurfing when they implemented that. Which could be a good alternative imo

What's to stop some smurf from putting in a phony number though (which has the doubly-negative effect of actually preventing the real owner of said number from joining)?
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby Kovash on Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:02 am

The 6man discord is great. To me the main advantage is the format: a bo5 will more often give the true winner while during a simple game, many things can go wrong.
That's the main reason I'm really forward to try the in-game tournament system !
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby N7Mith on Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:01 am

Galactic Geek wrote:
zGreenMachine- wrote:One of my buddies is really into CS:GO and I think he said that you have to verify your account with a unique phone number or something and supposedly that cut down on smurfing when they implemented that. Which could be a good alternative imo

What's to stop some smurf from putting in a phony number though (which has the doubly-negative effect of actually preventing the real owner of said number from joining)?

I got plenty friends with 0 interest in the game. Pretty easy to get to use their phone.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby Fish_Goes_Moo on Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:18 am

zGreenMachine- wrote:If they actually wanted people to buy new copies they'd be swinging the banhammer left and right at smurfs so they'd be forced to buy another copy if they wanted to play. Either way they really can't stop you from buying a new copy under a different account.


Can't stop. But could actually enforce the rules and ban the account from mm.

Not hard to see the smurfs. People openly do it these days and admit it in game, don't even hide behind the "came from console" bollocks, just straight up happy to admit they are smurfing because psyonix do fuck all. People have the cheek to have their main account as friend on their smurf. Popular youtubers, pros, all openly smurf and Psyonix do nothing, literally video evideance of people smurfing and Psyonix do fuck all, what more do they want to enforce the rule? a signed confession?

Should just remove it from the rules. It's clear they have 0 intention of enforcing it, so why bother having it there.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby Desirsar on Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:20 pm

N7Mith wrote:We need another calibration.


You're not seriously asking for another "we'll hide your rank for ten matches without changing anything else about how it works but call it 'calibration'" as if it makes a difference to matchmaking, are you?

It's like getting waxing done, you rip the sheet off and it hurts for a little while and then it's smooth for a few weeks. The end of the season is always going to be "stubble-y" or "hairy", and it'll stay that way until you wax it. Shaving ("calibration") doesn't hurt, but the problems come back in a few days instead of a few weeks.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby N7Mith on Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:34 pm

Desirsar wrote:
N7Mith wrote:We need another calibration.


You're not seriously asking for another "we'll hide your rank for ten matches without changing anything else about how it works but call it 'calibration'" as if it makes a difference to matchmaking, are you?

It's like getting waxing done, you rip the sheet off and it hurts for a little while and then it's smooth for a few weeks. The end of the season is always going to be "stubble-y" or "hairy", and it'll stay that way until you wax it. Shaving ("calibration") doesn't hurt, but the problems come back in a few days instead of a few weeks.

No I'm asking for a calibration like stretch out or compress the 'skill bell' again. They stretched out the lower ranks to make it easier to get out of bronze, but screwed up platinum and diamond. IDK maybe diamond was already screwed, but gold and plat were fine.
But I do favor soft resets vs hard resets, so the first 3 weeks in a season are actually kinda balanced.
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Re: Ranked is in bad shape on the higher levels

Postby xkoeckiiej on Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:32 am

N7Mith wrote:
Desirsar wrote:
N7Mith wrote:We need another calibration.


You're not seriously asking for another "we'll hide your rank for ten matches without changing anything else about how it works but call it 'calibration'" as if it makes a difference to matchmaking, are you?

It's like getting waxing done, you rip the sheet off and it hurts for a little while and then it's smooth for a few weeks. The end of the season is always going to be "stubble-y" or "hairy", and it'll stay that way until you wax it. Shaving ("calibration") doesn't hurt, but the problems come back in a few days instead of a few weeks.

No I'm asking for a calibration like stretch out or compress the 'skill bell' again. They stretched out the lower ranks to make it easier to get out of bronze, but screwed up platinum and diamond. IDK maybe diamond was already screwed, but gold and plat were fine.
But I do favor soft resets vs hard resets, so the first 3 weeks in a season are actually kinda balanced.


Would be cool if they added a rank above gc only for the really really really good players like rlcs folkes.
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