New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby Funnybear on Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:07 am

You preach to the converted bruvver. But RL doesn't really offer that choice does it (in ranked random). You gits whach'all gits. I can't praise some team mates enough, and wish I could offer a commendation of some sorts. I don't get reported for that do I. This debate has gone slightly weird in what it is we are actually debating. Some are concentrating on the words themselves and their desire never to have their eyes sullied by such things. Easy fix, chat filter or mute or chat ban for spammers.

Other people are using any argument against the totalitarian ban hammer as evidence that the complainer I.e. Me, is constant flame, serial abuser, and more toxic than Chernobyl. Deserving the BAN come what whether I am a 'good' player or not.

My point has always been that this is an arbitrary, non contextual, arrogant system that will ultimately detract from the player base. I have way too moderate my behaviour within the rules if I don't know what the rules are.

One man's shit is another mans fuck is another mans cunt. Let me know where the line is and I cross it at my peril.

But if people can still get away with fys, gfd, or my personal favourite 'Catch cancer' then the system is broke and that is the end of any real chance to random up decent teammates.

Everyone is on the defensive from the off and the system abusers already know what they can and can't use whilst us old timers with not much imagination get banned for going on school on juvenile arses.

The game is a game. Leave the language where is should be, in the fucking game in the heat of the moment. New game. New team mate. New balls, bronze 1 here I come.
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby ShutYourWaffle on Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:44 am

I have been playing some Rocket League today and yesterday with a friend who was 1 rank higher but not better at skilllevel then me, but he went up way gaster then me and i even got demoted from diamond 3 to diamond 2 while we won the game. I assume this is a glith or something relating to this new ban system. My friend doesnt boost me but we just play much together and we are tryharding to get to champion 2. I hope psyonix fixes this isseu because otherwise i will never get higher up in ranks.
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby hunt3rr1167 on Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:23 pm

This is fucking retarded if you guys are going to ban people for using language used in every day life, you can just perma ban me now because i refuse against this communism. I've been playing since RL was released but these rules are completely irrelevant to the game.
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby JacobThePigeon on Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:05 am

hunt3rr1167 wrote:This is fucking retarded if you guys are going to ban people for using language used in every day life, you can just perma ban me now because i refuse against this communism. I've been playing since RL was released but these rules are completely irrelevant to the game.


Perhaps you might want to consider reading the official Terms of Use Agreements.

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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby N7Mith on Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:24 am

hunt3rr1167 wrote:This is fucking retarded if you guys are going to ban people for using language used in every day life, you can just perma ban me now because i refuse against this communism. I've been playing since RL was released but these rules are completely irrelevant to the game.

The fact that rules were not so much enforced does not negate the rules themselves.
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby Funnybear on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:45 am

The rules also state that you must be over 18 to agree with the EULA. . . . . . . . . . How many, cough cough, under 18's, cough, are out there having bought, cough, and play RL, after signing the agreement?

Some rules are just there to justify the lawyers bill. Doesn't mean they can actually be enforced with any success, or that you would necessarily WANT them to be enforced.

The odd swear word does not make a player toxic. And nor does being holier than though in Chat mean you ain't a Toxic player. But the system can be gamed by idiots, and therefor the game will suffer as an entity.

But then the EULA goes on to say that Pyonix bears no responsibility (for anything, ever.) for graphical content.

The ToS's go on to not only condem the use of vulgar, obscene, pornographic language but BEHAVIOUR as well, so where is my defence against the toxicity of idiot players that cause me too be vulgar? I couldn't give two hoots what words are scrolling down that left hand side, they generally just make me chuckle. But your behaviour, I find that truly vulgar, obscene and sometimes, pornographic. Surely the BEHAVIOUR is just as enforceable as the language? And it is such an ambiguous line. What you find vulgar, I do not. What is obscene to you, is perfectly normal for me. And what you consider pornographic, I consider perfectly . . . . . . . abnormal! You really like that shit? OMG! . . . . . At least the donkey looks happy.

What I'm trying to say is, that language is ever changing, ebbing and flowing from one day to the next on the high and low tides of international communication. What is 'bannable' one minute, is the next minutes must say word of all time. A heated exchange online can escalate rapidly into all sorts of grey areas of ambiguity and perceived abuse. But if Pysonix wants an international player base, then they are quite happily shooting themselves in the foot by hiding the very language they are trying to stamp out. Not all users have a good grasp of Californian, and so communication errors can only be expected but if you aren't told what you did wrong you feel you are being treated unfairly. To be frank I've probably been called a hell of a lot of bad things in my time, but quite a lot of it is in French or German. With the odd Spaniard thrown in. Can't understand a word of it, but some of it is quite educational.

But anyway . . . . .

And then, the ToS's then go on to say that psyonix bears no responsibility for online interactions.

So, just which part of the ToS's are being enforced here? This little halcyon corner of internet California?

Lets see some extreme Ban Hammerage levered against some of the BEHAVIOUR please. I think It's only fair that you abide by your own ToS's.

Or why not just leave us all to our own devices, as your ToS's say's you will.

Yours truly. Now ex-Californian Terms of Service breaker, UK resident and currently locked in my own basement.

(Anyone know If I can go out for a Fag or not in California? Is it on the invisible list? Could someone come up with a list of words that Californians find particularly offensive? As we have all signed up to obey their rules. I might start driving on the right hand side. I wonder if I can use psyonics Eula and ToS's as a defence? 'Sorry your honour, I thought I was still driving in California. . . . . . . It's a game your honour. Rewards foul play, but penalises free speech . . . . . Yes, I know. But Californians eh? What can I say . . . . . . '
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby Stlaymore on Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:43 am

hunt3rr1167 wrote:This is fucking retarded if you guys are going to ban people for using language used in every day life, you can just perma ban me now because i refuse against this communism. I've been playing since RL was released but these rules are completely irrelevant to the game.

Man, I hate it when I can't slander my teammates to make them feel bad. It's almost like they're trying to make this community less toxic!
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby Crimedog on Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:09 am

The issue is not with trying to make the community less toxic, as was pointed out, what one person finds toxic another might find totally funny and not toxic. Why should I have to tip toe around with my words? If I'm being racist, or just going on and on, okay....that's different. But I can't even tell my team mate them going for the ball in that situation was a bad move, or they report me for being offensive? Are you fucking kidding me? I'm being offensive for trying to learn them something? And then trying to appeal a ban is like bashing your head against a wall. You get the same damn response regardless, "deal with it".

Also, as was previous stated, half the toxic shit that goes on isn't even chat, it's people purposely fucking the game up by trying to own goal because the other team scored a single goal and so now the game is OBVIOUSLY over...I mean it's not like there's 4 minutes and 54 seconds left in the match or anything....

You can't have an auto ban system that bans people for trying to own goal, or banning people for anything less than racism, sexist, etc, or just continually calling someone the same mildly bad thing over and over. Why the fuck has this world gone into a damn politically correct nightmare?

What's next, I can't say nice shot to a teammate because it offends the other team?
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby NoOne-NBA on Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:50 am

Crimedog wrote:But I can't even tell my team mate them going for the ball in that situation was a bad move, or they report me for being offensive?

That's not going to get you banned, unless you're a dick while doing it.

If you didn't use any of the words that are on the auto-ban list, you won't get auto-banned.
If you weren't a dick, while offering your advice, you won't get hit by the manual ban system either.

It's not the other guy thinking you are offensive that earns you a ban.
It's the person reviewing the reports thinking you are offensive that earns you a ban.
In my experience those people are being too lenient with what they deem acceptable, if anything.
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby Derrick2626 on Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:15 pm

I find this new update bs tbh. I just got perma banned on ps4 for verbal use, im playing on a new account because of the ban but I'm salty because I didn't get a warning and the times I did use verbal words was when ever I came across a toxic player. I normally tend to just chill on RL but this ban was honestly retarded
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby TheVictim on Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:54 pm

Derrick2626 wrote:I find this new update bs tbh. I just got perma banned on ps4 for verbal use, im playing on a new account because of the ban but I'm salty because I didn't get a warning and the times I did use verbal words was when ever I came across a toxic player. I normally tend to just chill on RL but this ban was honestly retarded



absolutely. psyonix def didnt think this one through. they should just stick to making decent b level games rather than failing at being champions of compassion.
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Re: New Ban Practices and Season 4 Rewards Update

Postby JacobThePigeon on Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:30 pm

Derrick2626 wrote:I find this new update bs tbh. I just got perma banned on ps4 for verbal use, im playing on a new account because of the ban but I'm salty because I didn't get a warning and the times I did use verbal words was when ever I came across a toxic player. I normally tend to just chill on RL but this ban was honestly retarded


Dirkened wrote:Each word has its own threshold, and once a threshold for any word has been reached, that player will be automatically subject to a ban. These bans will typically start at 24 hours, then escalate to 72 hours, one week, and finally, a permanent ban.


If you were banned permanently, it was because you repeatedly 'verbally abused'.

If you feel you were wrongfully banned, please contact the official Rocket League Support Team.
https://support.rocketleague.com/

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